| Q1. |
I'd like to request a clarification on the AO/PIP for LRO:
Given that an imaging radar system is a potential instrument for the LRO, and that radar antennas typically have mass of 30-50 kg:
1. Is there a maximum permitted mass or size for a dedicated antenna?
2. Does the antenna mass count against the 100-kg estimate for payload?
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| A1. |
The maximum size is limited by the Delta II fairing volume. Section 3.4.3 in the PIP illustrates the available volume with the core LRO propulsion module shown since it must be on the centerline
and is defined by the required quantity of propellant. The remaining volume will be shared by the payload and the other LRO subsystems. The spacecraft subsystems will be configured once the payload is
known in order to best accommodate the selected payload.
The fairing shown is for a three stage Delta II launch vehicle and is our baseline. The two stage Delta fairing is larger and if LRO's total mass is kept low enough the two stage Delta may be considered.
Trading mass for reduced mechanical complexity may be desirable should an instrument require a complex deployment to fit in the baseline fairing. Until the design progresses further it is not known whether the
total mass can be kept low enough to consider the two stage Delta II. The two stage fairing information will be posted to the library and proposers may comment in their proposal if its use is a potential advantage
but must still have a viable design for the baseline fairing.
The mass of an instrument antenna counts against the 100 kg.
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| Q2. |
I have a company that works with PIs and Co-Is in developing instruments and flight hardware in addition to performing systems engineering, structural and thermal analysis, and
program management tasks. Could you provide information about potential proposing PI's which we might contact to offer our support? |
| A2. |
While your interests are laudable, NASA is not allowed to divulge any information whatsoever about potential proposers or proposals and in fact will not even know until Notices of Intent to propose who might
be proposing. You will have to seek alternative ways to discover potential proposers and one way might be to attend the Preproposal Conference in DC on July 7th.
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| Q3. |
Do I understand correctly that the LRO AO process is a one-step Selection Process? That is, there will be no site visits or down selection? |
| A3. |
This is correct; investigations selected late this year will be the ones to fly if they maintain their development on time and within their proposed costs and remain within the resource
capabilities of the LRO spacecraft. Investigations selected for LRO must be integrated and launched within the next 4 years. This condition leaves no time for additional downselection steps, however, in any
event, the downselection approach is generally reserved for full mission solicitations or when there is more time allowed for this process and a need for over-selection.
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| Q4. |
Section 2.5.3.1 of Appendix B of the MSL AO states that "The proposal must provide cost information (in FY 2004, fixed year dollars) for any items that provide heritage to the
investigation." We wanted to make sure that the information was to be in FY04 dollars. This is because in Section 2.7.1 Cost Tables - all data is requested in RY$ and FY05 dollars.
Should everything be in FY05 dollars or FY04 dollars or should they be different as the AO states?
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| A4. |
The request of this section is an error. All costs requested by this solicitation will be fixed FY05 or Real Year dollars.
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| Q5. |
If a proposed element of an investigation is build-to-print, do we need to carry full mass reserves for that element? (currently 100 kg)? |
| A5. |
The amount of mass reserve for a given element should be at the level deemed appropriate by the proposer with the rationale clearly explained. The LRO AO/PIP does
not contain specific requirements for mass reserve levels as this is left up to the proposer to establish and justify.
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| Q6. |
In the LRO announcement of opportunity you make reference on page 3 to "high spatial resolution hydrogen mapping". Does this by any chance refer to the lunar
helium-3 resource exploitation that I have heard about? If not could you clarify "hydrogen mapping"? |
| A6. |
Hydrogen mapping does not refer to helium-3. The AO specifies a measurement set for hydrogen mapping of the Moon's surface at a high spatial resolution.
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| Q7. |
We understand that radiation is a top priority measurement for the LRO mission. However, the meteoroid issue, although not as critical as radiation, cannot be overlooked
and will need to be addressed. Before we proceed and put together a team for the proposal, I would like to ask you for your opinion on this experiment. Will a meteoroid detector be within the scope of this LRO AO? |
| A7. |
The LRO mission is a measurement set driven mission. While there will be a need for such data as you have described, the advisory panels to NASA did not place this particular requirement as one needed for this
mission and as such would be outside the scope of the AO.
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| Q8. |
I have a number of detailed questions with regards to a number of specific technical interfaces with the LRO spacecraft and mission. Since the appropriate GSFC personnel
working these matters were identified at the Preproposal Conference, may I contact these individuals directly for guidance? |
| A8. |
No, we were very specific at the conference that ALL questions must come to the Program Scientist/Dr. Jim Garvin, so that the answers can be coordinated and posted for
all those who might have a need to know. The only exception to this policy appears in Section 5.3 of the AO, which allows questions about OSS Education and Public Outreach
to be directed to a Hq named individual, but even in this case, it is highly recommended that Dr. Jim Garvin also be copied on these questions.
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| Q9. |
What level of reliability (Probability of Success, Ps) is required for LRO instruments? |
| A9. |
A required Probability of Success for LRO instruments has not been established yet. However, as the first mission in the Exploration Initiative, LRO is subject to a high
level of visibility and its observation data products are very important to the overall effort. Therefore it must be the most reliable mission possible within our budget and time
constraints. The approach GSFC will take to determining the Ps for the Orbiter is to perform the assessment using MIL-STD-217 EEE parts data, manufacturers or GSFC test
data for parts not in MIL-STD-217, and a set of appropriate modifying factors based on GSFC space flight hardware experience (i.e. reliability performance data from missions
that have been actually built and flown). This approach will yield a realistic estimate of Ps. At this point, the required overall Ps goal for the Orbiter is to be greater than 90%,
assuming a 2-year mission lifetime. A similar approach for designing the instrument hardware based upon the provider organization's experience is expected.
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| Q10. |
The LRO AO in Section 7.1 refers to "the approved goals of the Lunar Robotics Program provided in the LRO library '. There does seem to be a
document in the library by this title. Can you explain? |
| A10. |
The AO language may not have been sufficiently clear. The approved goals of the Lunar Robotics Program are derived from the Presidential Directive and are covered in the ORDT Preliminary Report
document as the Level 0 Requirements. These are also cited in Section 1.2 of the AO.
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| Q11. |
When is the last day that we may submit questions with regards to this solicitation? |
| A11. |
The last day to submit questions is 8/24/04. Questions submitted on 8/24/04 will be answered on or before 8/31/04. No more new Q&A's will be posted after 8/31.
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| Q12. |
Will there soon be an announcement for Participant Scientists for the LRO mission? If I propose to LRO and am selected, will this disqualify me
for later proposing to the new Solicitation? |
| A12. |
NASA has no plans at this time for a Participating Scientist solicitation since LRO is not a science mission, but aimed instead at acquiring measurements sets needed for the Lunar Exploration Program.
Should such a solicitation become a reality, your selection for the LRO AO would not automatically disqualify you from responding to this future solicitation.
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| Q13. |
Can you please distinguish between science investigations and measurement investigations as related to the LRO mission? |
| A13. |
LRO is a measurement-driven mission that will derive measurements that can be used directly in support of future Lunar Human Exploration Systems. These
measurements are in contrast to the traditional hypothesis-driven science responding to science goals and objectives from Roadmaps and Strategic Plans.
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| Q14. |
What is the level of data that I will be expected to deliver to the LRO project from my investigation? |
| A14. |
The LRO investigations are expected to provide high-level calibrated measurement sets in the direct support of planning, design, and investment
decisions for Lunar Human Exploration Systems. The Level 0 (i.e., raw data) will be archived by the LRO Project. After a short period of verification and
validation, not to exceed 6 months, the PI must deposit the higher level reduced data in the Planetary Data System in a PDS-compatible format for public access.
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| Q15. |
It would appear that the table in the LRO PIP on page 26 under the heading 6.2 Development Schedule is not correct with regards to instrument
and Project CDR. If selection is 11/15, the instrument CDR's and Project CDR's cannot be as shown in the table. |
| A15. |
The LRO PIP table is in error. Selection is targeted for approximately 11/30/04 with the following templates:
Instrument CDR.....selection + 16 months
Project CDR..........selection + 18 months
A Revised PIP will be posted shortly reflecting these corrections.
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| Q16. |
(PPC Q16) The LRO AO specifically says that it solicits individual instruments rather than suites of instruments. Is it possible to submit a single proposal for two related instruments
to address two measurement requirements noting that each instrument addresses each measurement and call this a single investigation? |
| A16. |
(PPC A16) While in theory you could make a case for the cost savings of flying two related instruments as a single investigation, this AO is NOT soliciting such investigations. If there are
two instruments there should be two proposals. If however, a single instrument can be used to obtain data toward multiple measurement sets, this would be highly desirable and acceptable.
PPC A16 UPDATE: The burden of making the case that a proposal is for a "single instrument" that addresses multiple measurements versus a "suite of instruments"
rests with the proposer. While a proposer could make a case for cost savings in flying two related instruments or suite of instruments as a single investigation, the LRO AO does NOT solicit investigations in
which the "related instruments" are structurally or technically distinct (i.e, profoundly different measurement physics). If there are two inherently distinct instruments, then there should be two proposals.
However, if a single instrument or instrument "system" can be used to obtain data that addresses multiple measurement sets, this would be highly desirable and acceptable. Also note that the LRO AO
indicates that in special cases, "small, related set of instruments" could be proposed to address specific measurement requirements.
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| Q17. |
There appears to be an ambiguity in the AO and the PIP concerning the actual mission duration (Phase E) after checkout and commissioning. Can you clarify this? |
| A17. |
The planning date for LRO launch is October 15, 2008. The Launch Readiness Review would be held within one month of launch, assume 3 weeks prior. Thus, for planning purposes the schedule from launch
forward is as follows:
- Transit to the Moon - 4 days.
- Checkout and commissioning with the first 30 days after launch.
- Primary observation and measurement mission 12 months duration.
- PI's deliver higher level reduced data to Planetary Data System (PDS) within 6 months after prime mission complete.
- Extended mission option (objectives as yet undefined) up to an additional 48 months.
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| Q18. |
In Appendix B the cost and pricing data appears to be requested for both cost and workforce data to be presented by the month for Phase A/B and
by FY for later phases, however, under Workforce Staffing Plan the words are "the workforce staffing plan should be presented by month...". Can you clarify this? |
| A18. |
Both Cost and workforce data should be presented by month for Phase A/B and by FY for later phases.
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| Q19. |
The PIP specifies that instruments shall be MLI blanketed in all locations where the instrument views the spacecraft internally. Are the instrument providers responsible for the
fabrication of all instrument flight blankets? |
| A19. |
Yes, it is the responsibility of the instrument builders to provide the thermal blankets. If for a particular instrument the proposers believe another approach makes more sense they should discuss it in
their proposal but baseline building their own thermal blankets.
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| Q20. |
In addition to the page allocations described in the AO (Table 1, page B-3), are we allowed to have an additional color cover page? If so, should this come
before or after the "official" cover page? |
| A20. |
Yes, you can have a protective cover with a design of your own choosing.
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| Q21. |
It is likely that several separate instruments may contribute measurements that will aid refinement of the global topography and gravity field of the Moon as the LRO mission proceeds.
Such information when combined would in turn be useful to most of the LRO measurement teams. Are there plans for GSFC to collate, update, and advise measurement teams of an evolving lunar topographic and
gravity model on a timely basis during the mission, or is this the responsibility of individual measurement teams? A GSFC effort seems wise, and team-specific efforts less efficient. |
| A21. |
While a GSFC project mission effort may seem like an imminently sensible activity to include, it is not in the LRO planning at present. As it stands now the GSFC project plans to simply archive level 0 and make sure
that the PIs are piping their products to the PDS with no reduced data explicitly required until 6 months after the mission. A GSFC-based effort, depending on what payload is ultimately selected, is under evaluation
with the results to be available by Selection. However, since this is not presently in the baseline so you should not plan on it.
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| Q22. |
In the PIP on pgs 28 and 29, there are deliverables for an "Instrument Interface Simulator" and an "Instrument C&DH/Operations Simulator." They are both required at L-18 months and it
looks like the IIS could be a subset of the I C&DH/O simulator. Is it the intent of the project to have the delivery of two separate simulators, or could the requirement be satisfied with the delivery of one unit that satisfies both
functions. |
| A22. |
These are two different items although it is possible to build two copies of a single design should a proposer choose to incorporate the functional ity of both items in one design. See below:
Instrument Interface Simulator: Simulates the electrical interfaces at the spacecraft interface, i.e. the proper connectors, impedances, and proper operation on the cmd/tlm/data bus or interface. It does not need to
simulate the function of the operating instrument, only proper communication a cross the interface.
Instrument C&DH/Operations Simulator: Simulates the operating instrument, i.e. proper response to specific commands, simulated telemetry, flight like timing, etc, but does not need to have flight like physical or power
interfaces. In other words this could be a PC with the necessary interface connections to the spacecraft test bed used in S/W testing.
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| Q23. |
The PIP states that the current budget guideline for the LRO payload is $90M for development thru the end of the one-year primary mission (phases A - E). We would like to know if this is
$90M in real year dollars or FY2005 dollars. |
| A23. |
$90M is in RY dollars. See AO Pg. 12, Sec 5.7
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| Q24. |
As you know, PI institutions charge their federally-negotiated F&A rate on the first $25,000 of each subcontract on a project. (We may have a number of such subcontracts on our project.)
My question regards the budgeting of these subcontracts. Will new Phases (or groups of Phases) of the project require the issuance of new subcontracts altogether? That is, should we budget in the F&A to set up the
subcontracts every Phase (or every other Phase)? |
| A24. |
The university's cognizant audit agency and approved university accounting procedures determine the calculation and application of F&A rates.
NASA intends on awarding Phase A/B contracts with an Advance Agreement for Phases C/D and E based on the original proposal submitted against the AO. The initial contract award value will be negotiated based
on the proposed costs for Phases A/B, plus costs for the Bridge Phase as described in Appendix B of this AO.
Phases C/D and E will be negotiated/added, via a mod to the original contract, based on the report submitted for Phases A/B and the Phase C/D/E implementation and cost plans, all of which are due at Instrument PDR.
Bridge Phase and Advance Agreement costs shall be considered as part of total proposed investigation costs, i.e. these costs are not in addition to, but are a subset of, total costs proposed for this investigation.
Each offeror should submit all proposals in accordance with their cost estimating system, as approved by the cognizant audit agency (DCAA/ONR/DHHS, etc.).
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| Q25. |
Is a GDS MRT (pg 25 of PIP) the same as a MRR (pg 27 of PIP) or FOR/ORR? It is clear that the PIs/IST will support ~3MRTs but it is not clear how much time or when to schedule for an
MRR or FOR/ORR (or whether any of these are the same thing)? What level of support will the PI and the IST need to give to these reviews/tests? What constitutes an IST? |
| A25. |
The GDS MRT (pg. 25 of the PIP) are ground interface tests between the LRO ground elements including any instrument/PI support facilities. The purpose of these tests is to verify/validate the GDS requirements.
MRTs are usually performed between the MOR and FOR/ORR reviews. The amount of PI/instrument time required is dependent on how complex the I/F is between the instrument/PI facility and the rest of the GDS.
But typically each MRT takes 2-4 hours to perform with some prep time for each. MRT #5 (end-to-end) may take up to a full day to execute plus some prep time. The prep time involves reviewing/supporting the
development of the test plan for each MRT.
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| Q26. |
Is the I-PDR (selection+5mos) going to be on 4/15/05 not 5/15/05 as listed on pg 26 of the PIP? |
| A26. |
Also see Q&A 15, as a revised PIP (Rev A) correcting Section 6.2 has has been posted. I-PDR is still, however, selection + 5 months, however, Selection is currently projected no earlier than the end of November 2004.
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| Q27. |
We have noticed that the earlier promised LRO Data Management Plan (DMP) is still not available in the LRO library. Can you tell us when this will be available? |
| A27. |
Although the LRO DMP is in development, after more serious consideration the Project has decided to not post a preliminary DMP for proposal purposes because there would be too many TBD's that have not yet been
baselined with the evolving approving organizations at GSFC and NASA Headquarters. For this AO, proposers may use their own judgement citing historical precedences and/or guidelines from other programs when
discussing their plans for data processing, analysis, and archiving.
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| Q28. |
The PIP provides pointing and orbit determination accuracies on page 7. Are these estimates of how well these parameters will be controlled or how well they will be known afterwards?
If they are one type of estimate, can you provide the other? Are any estimates of pointing stability over various time periods available? |
| A28. |
The Pointing Accuracy and the Pointing Stability on page 7 characterize how well pointing will be controlled. Pointing knowledge will be at least 30 arc-sec. The OD accuracy on page 7 characterizes the knowledge
produced from the ongoing OD performed during the mission. LRO will control the orbital altitude to at least +/- 20 km in the case of a 50 km target mean altitude.
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| Q29. |
How fast will the spacecraft be able to turn, e.g. in order to "stare" at a point on the surface? Will rates up to 2 degrees/second be possible? |
| A29. |
Current reaction wheel sizing will not support slew rates this high (exact max rate is tbd at present) and furthermore while LRO will be able to slew to perform off nadir-pointing it is not currently being designed to
track a target on the ground as we move along the orbital path, i.e. as that target moves out of the nadir pointed FOV. It is also important to note that off nadir pointing must be planned as to be compatible with the overall
observation plans for the entire compliment of instruments comprising the payload.
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| Q30. |
Will the LRO Project provide spacecraft SPICE data or will proposers have to arrange for the production of this data themselves? |
| A30. |
The project can supply data in SPICE format if required.
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| Q31. |
The PIP states (page 8 table, item b) the data transfer rate the spacecraft will support. Does this imply that adequate on-board memory will be supplied by the spacecraft to buffer data
provided at this rate for a minimum of one orbit or do proposers have to provide their own memory? |
| A31. |
LRO will have adequate on-board memory to support the maximum instrument data rates in the PIP and the daily total downlinked data volume in the PIP.
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| Q32. |
Will the spacecraft be turned to communicate with Earth, or will it have a steerable antenna for communications? |
| A32. |
A gimbaled (steerable) antenna is planned.
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| Q33. |
Can it be assumed that the LRO Program will provide a hardware interface (e.g. two workstations and interfacing software) for transfer of data and commands to/from the
Mission Operations Center? |
| A33. |
No, this is not normally provided by the mission GDS. If an instrument team wants to use the relevant GDS S/W on their ground system the project will supply it and assist in it's installation and use.
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| Q34. |
The PIP Appendix C is not clear on what the orbit repeat time will be. Will the orbit be a one month repeat orbit, or will it be possible to negotiate other repeat periods
(obtainable e.g. via a slightly off polar orbit inclination)? |
| A34. |
LRO will have line-of-sight access to every point on the moon twice each month, once on the ascending side of its orbit and once on the descending side of its orbit. LRO will not have a strictly repeating
ground-track. The data in App. C is supplied so that potential swath overlaps can be understood in relation to instrument FOV and latitude. Because the Moon's J2 is insignificant compared to the Earth's, lunar orbits
do not experience nodal regression the way that low Earth orbits do. Therefore, inclination cannot be used to control/create repeat periods. The only way to create a repeating orbital path is to control orbital period
via propulsive maneuvers. Currently LRO plans to control the orbital altitude, not period.
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| Q35. |
How often will predict kernels be made available, and how often and with what time lag will final position and pointing information be made available? |
| A35. |
Our preliminary estime is that SPICE products are planned to be made available weekly and position information will be be posted with a time lag of 5-14 days.
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| Q36. |
I have a question about a U.S. Co-I on a foreign proposal. The AO talks a lot about foreign proposals, which should be on a no-exchange-of-funds basis, and about foreign Co-Is on a
U.S.-led proposal, but what do we do about our budgets if we are a U.S. Co-I on a foreign proposal? Do we submit our budget as part of the foreign proposal, even though the proposal is supposed to be for no exchange
of funds? |
| A36. |
Yes.
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